| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2012-04-04, 3:41 PM | Message # 1 |
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| There are those who will dance up and down and rejoice at this including Tom Elliott. But I'm sure those who look beyond the spin and the web being spun know what the real outcome of what such a move could be
''anti-British feeling was very self-defeating'' Those few words exposes what the real agenda is. It worked against them so time to change tact and use a different method for the absorption of Ulster.
‘Republic’s interest in Commonwealth grows’
Published on Monday 2 April 2012 08:23
A FORMER Irish diplomat has said that the Republic of Ireland is moving ever closer to the UK and that there is a growing possibility of it re-joining the British Commonwealth.
Eamon Delaney, who was in the Irish Foreign Service from 1987 to 1995 and is now an author and journalist, was speaking in the wake of Northern Ireland First Minister Peter Robinson’s speech in Dublin, last week, to mark the 100th Anniversary of the Ulster Covenant.
In his speech Mr Robinson said he hoped unionism would adopt “a patchwork quilt” of identities in future, and quoted former UUP leader Edward Carson as advocating a unionism which embraces all religions and traditions.
Mr Delaney expressed some disappointment with the speech, suggesting it was “a slightly lost opportunity” for Mr Robinson, because in his eyes many people in the south may be ready to go much further.
“I think there is a very widespread feeling that we should forge closer links with the UK,” he said. “The feeling now is that a lot of the historical anti-British feeling was wholly unjust and very self-defeating.
“Many people in Ireland follow British football teams, read English newspapers and watch English television.”
There is now a feeling, he added, which questions what all the conflict has been for, with renewed commemorations in the south for Irish men who fought in WWI and WWII, where before they had been “airbrushed from history”.
“There is a feeling that we made a mess of managing ourselves in the past decade, there is great disappointment regarding how the Republic of Ireland managed its economy.
“And there is also the feeling that the Roman Catholic child abuse scandals would not have happened under British rule. So there is a feeling that we should go back to closer association with the UK — maybe even rejoin the Commonwealth.”
He cites a number of countries that are no longer under British rule but still remain within the Commonwealth which he says is seen as “harmless and yet greatly beneficial for its sporting and cultural links”.
Ulster people, he says, speak in “black and white”, in sharp contrast to southerners who are much more ambiguous.
“People in the south are reluctant to name things directly, politicians as much as anyone, but there is definitely a renewed affection for Britain, especially since the Queen’s visit. The feeling was that it [the Queen’s visit] was long overdue.”
He rejects the suggestion that the lock-down of Dublin city for her visit undermines his argument.
“Many people now hold the view that there may have been an overreaction in that regard. Look at the size of the protests — there were only a couple of hundred dissident republican types.
“Sinn Fein declined to meet the Queen in Dublin but they later realised they had called that wrong. They realised they were out of step with a large part of the population.”
As proof, he cites the fact that Sinn Fein’s Martin McGuinness, in his bid to become Irish president, said he would be happy to meet the Queen.
The growing ease among nationalists in their relationship with the UK is further underlined by how comfortable Sinn Fein are in government with the DUP within the UK framework, he adds.
“The poison has been taken out of the relationship, there is just a sense of realism about how we go forward. It is all about economics now.”
Ireland’s “so called friends” in the EU and even in the US were of little help during Ireland’s economic crisis, but it was the UK which came through with “a really generous bail-out”.
“There is a feeling of really goodwill toward the UK now, which was underlined by the strong relationship exhibited by the recent photo call involving both premiers at Downing Street.”
In closing, Mr Delaney said that the Irish Republic “should not be complacent” but should take this issue seriously in the interests of political stability.
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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| RSAUB | Date: Wednesday, 2012-04-04, 5:03 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Yes, you have to laugh at these vultures, well laugh if it wasn’t so serious.
We bail these vultures out very recently with Billions of pounds, not to mention the amount of money we’ve been paying into the European Union for years, while Eire creamed in a fortune.
The over-whelming majority of Eire trade is with the United Kingdom, and the vast majority of it travels through the U.K. on it’s way to Mainland Europe.
The vast-majority of the tourism generated in Eire comes from the United Kingdom.
Yet these vultures only recently decided to talk about flying the Union Flag along side other flags of the World outside hotels and restaurants etc in the Irish Republic to boast tourism after an independent report urged businesses in Dublin to be more welcoming to British tourists.
Now they talk about joining the Commonwealth, playing the cunning trick to bring us into a false sense of security, to bring about a United Ireland. At the end of the day, they will only ever do what is in their best interests. They have learned that alienating our people has meant that Ulster would always remain British, now they are back to being cunning and promoting a Unionist outreach strategy, we only have to look it’s coming out how much the Irish Government has been involved in buying up large numbers of housing in Ulster especially in staunchly loyalist districts of Belfast and their former Irish President who compared us to Nazis and was the daughter of a IRA scumbag, was heavily engaged in massaging the ego of so called loyalist representatives and also securing big “donations” for them.
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