| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2012-05-02, 6:30 AM | Message # 1 |
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| We'll see if it happens. Pity something similar couldn't be done regarding the Clydevalley. But don't think there is enough interest by unionists in the history of Ulster's past. You'd think the unionist politicans could get their heads together and do something. Of course they are more interested in money and cosying up to the shinners.
Plan to build Titanic replica
Published on Tuesday 1 May 2012 08:21
ONE of the richest men in Australia has announced an audacious plan to build a replica of the Titanic.
Only weeks after the centenary of the luxury liner’s North Atlantic sinking, billionaire Clive Palmer has revealed details of his contract with a Chinese shipyard to construct a state-of-the-art copy within four years.
According to The Australian newspaper, the mining magnate hopes work on Titanic II will commence before the end of this year, with the vessel ready for its maiden voyage in 2016.
The announcement comes as Mr Palmer begins another journey he hopes will take him into political office — he has also revealed his intention to stand as Queensland’s Liberal National Party candidate at federal level for the Brisbane seat of Lilley.
The seat is currently occupied by the deputy prime minister Wayne Swan.
If all goes to plan, the new ship will be completed at the Chinese state-owned CSC Jinling Shipyard and make the 2016 journey from England to New York equipped with modern-day navigation technology.
The ambitious businessman says the new cruise liner will be as close as possible in design and specification to the Belfast-built Titanic, although diesel engines will replace the coal-powered originals.
When asked at a press conference if the 2012 version was at risk of sinking, Mr Palmer said, “of course it will sink if you put a hole in it”, before adding: “It is going to be designed so it won’t sink. It will be designed as a modern ship with all the technology to ensure that doesn’t happen.”
When the Titanic sank on the morning of April 15, 1912, more than 1,500 people lost their lives.
Promising a vessel “every bit as luxurious as the original”, Mr Palmer said it would be fitted with “state-of-the-art 21st-century technology and the latest navigation and safety systems”.
The overall cost of construction is not yet known, a spokesman for the billionaire told Australian media.
Once completed, Titanic II is expected to be escorted from China to England by warships from the Chinese navy.
A recent YouGov poll in Northern Ireland found the majority of people with an opinion on the matter supported the idea of a replica ship moored in Belfast.
The survey — which questioned 818 adults aged between 18 and 64 — recorded 45 per cent in favour compared to 41 per cent against.
Meanwhile, visitors to Titanic Belfast can now also experience the Harland & Wolff drawing offices where the liner was designed.
Admission to the offices is £2.50, open from 10.30am to 5pm daily.
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| RSAUB | Date: Wednesday, 2012-05-02, 2:17 PM | Message # 2 |
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| What gets me about the Clyde Valley when it was brought back from Ulster, was that it was left to rot in the most Protestant town in Ulster. There is no excuse for what happened to it, but then look at Fernhill house, now closed down, a clear indication of how much interest Prods really have in their heritage and culture.
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2012-05-02, 5:06 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Sadly have to say I agree. Your on the money. To think that the Asgard only brought in a couple of hundred guns and yet it is in a museum in Eire while the Clydevalley was left to rot and then broken up. It does show the different mentality as regards our history and theirs. We didn't think enough of those people who took on this hazardous task to preserve our link with them though the Clydevalley.
I think that it was Paisley who sounded the death knell for the Clydevalley. He pushed himself to the front pledging to bring it home and would cover whatever it cost. This frightened off those in the unionist establishment and others of the 'upper-class' who wanted nothing to do with Paisley. In the event he used it to bolster his own image. Boarding it and sailing into Larne on it. Then he left those men who had first mooted the idea in the lurch and owing money which they couldn't afford and later(it was said) caused their deaths.
Its a pity the Prods couldn't come together and form some sort of a committee to oversee the building of a replica of the Clydevalley. But unless its something to do with parading I don't think there is much chance of that 
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| RSAUB | Date: Thursday, 2012-05-03, 0:23 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Very true, all most prods are interested in is a flute and drum and all these band parades are mainly now nothing more than about the band collecting a good amount at the parades, rather than any-thing to do with loyality to their Country. You can see this when your talking to the younger generation, the last band I was in, if you'd a mentioned something about your heritage, culture or politics no-one was interested unless you were talking about something relating to violence are the hard-men image of Ulster loyalism, but that fits the loyalist self-image they have of themselves as hard-men. Some people use to call them corner-boys, I don't like using terms like that, but it's certainly true of a large percentage of those who proclaim themselves to be the hard-men and hard-liners of Ulster loyalism.
Your post says it all about Paisley, use and abise it, jump on the band-wagon then when it no longer serves his self-serving purpose, leave it and forget about it. Enoch Powell once called him the "Protestant Sinn Fein", I think he had a point s he reinforced every sterotypical image of Ulster Protestants in the Worlds media with his ranting and caused friction and division until he got his hands on the power, then he portrayed his people.
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| Culzie | Date: Friday, 2012-05-04, 4:54 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Remember my dad saying years ago about how bands get paid to walk on the 12th but Orangemen pay to walk on the 12th. Guess that sums up the difference in a few words.
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| RSAUB | Date: Friday, 2012-05-04, 10:52 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Very true and some of the fee's bands charge are a disgrace to walk on the Twelfth, along with looking their buses paid as well.
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2012-05-16, 7:01 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Yeah it wasn't so bad years ago when the average in a lodge was about 50. A few lodges had between 100 and 200 in them. But times have changed and the cost is falling on fewer members. So its the real believers who carry on the tradition. Of course there were those on the wings of 'unionism' who told the bands...'you don't need the OO to parade,have your own parades' and so the band parades came about. Was this to break the OO? Could well be.
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