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The OO, Patricks Day, Carson, Craig and Crawford
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2014-02-12, 9:42 PM | Message # 1 |
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| 'Orangeism in Ireland' gives no record from within its pages of the OO parading on St Patricks Day, so it seems that it is a fairly new happening. It probably started after the signing of the B.A.,and the St Andrew's Agreement. Since then there has been a steady increase in the OO's involvement in promoting all things Irish, even to the extent of parading with the Hibernians to an Orange Hall which had both Orange and Hibernian banners inside it.
The latest movement in this direction is a St Patrick's parade to Nelson Memorial Church on the Shankill Road which will take place on Sunday the 16th of March 2014. This church is named after a minister called Isaac Nelson. Isaac Nelson was a keen supporter of Home Rule for Ireland, and was elected as MP for Sligo on the Home Rule issue. He was a member of Parnell's Home Rule Party. Here's what Parnell had to say regarding Home Rule for Ireland.
Parnell in one of his speeches in America, delivered at Cincinatti, stated
'' The feudal tenure,and the rule of the minority, have been the cornerstone of English misrule. Pull out the cornerstone, break it up, destroy it. and you undermine English government. When we have undermined English mis-government, we have paved the way for Ireland to take her place among the nations of the earth and let us not forget that that is the ultimate goal at which all we Irishmen aim. None of us, whether in America or in Ireland, or wherever we may be, will be satisfied until we have destroyed the last link which keeps Ireland bound to England.''
The OO prides itself on its loyalty and link with the rest of the UK. However, now even a St Patrick's day parade is not enough, they have to go to a church named after a Home Ruler. Where are they taking the loyalist people of Ulster? With this action it would seem
they believe that Carson, Craig and Crawford were wrong in their opposition to Home Rule.
It would seem the people are indeed being conditioned into a general acceptance of a United Ireland. Gradualism works.
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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| RSAUB | Date: Monday, 2014-02-17, 2:09 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Very true, a dangerous one way road to cultural absorption of the Ulster peoples Orange culture into the big green Irish bog.
The saddest thing about it all, is it's our own people who are doing this. It's a little like digging your own grave.
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| Culzie | Date: Monday, 2014-02-17, 8:36 PM | Message # 3 |
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| There is one thing. We can at least say we played no part in the sell-out of our country.
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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| RSAUB | Date: Wednesday, 2014-02-19, 7:53 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Very true, at least we will be able to look at ourselves in the mirror and know we played no part in the treachery, the only thing we will wish for is that we'd done more to stop it.
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2014-02-19, 11:39 PM | Message # 5 |
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| What's galling about it too, is that the republicans have not hid what their agenda is. They have stated clearly on numerous occasions their game-plan. And yet 'loyalists' are quite willing to go along with them and assist them in their goal. But ''dare to be a Daniel, dare to stand alone''
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| Slappataig | Date: Thursday, 2014-02-20, 9:25 PM | Message # 6 |
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| so our politicians and "community reps" i can understand working against us. but now our loyal orders have started going down the whole lets-all-get-on-we're-all-paddys road? good grief, suppose it was a matter of time.
even though it was the OO that stood against this irish language crap in east belfast, and i remember a couple of years ago a field speech using the line "liberalism in the modern mindset has killed our numbers and influence on society"
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| Culzie | Date: Friday, 2014-02-21, 6:17 PM | Message # 7 |
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| True whoever said that was spot on
I believe the paddy day parades were started to test the water and when there was no objection on a large scale it was only a matter of time before other things were introduced. I personally believe the band in Belvoir having a paddy day parade give the encouragment to Tait to introduce gaelic games into his school,and then others followed. What the hell were loyalist bands in Scotland doing having paddy day parades. Can't get my head round that one. Crazy. But the social engineers knew what they were doing. 'Prods love Parades' and any chance to have one was seized on, so push paddy's day and they'll be only too willing to get another chance to 'strut their stuff'. Good thinking (by the engineers)
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| RSAUB | Date: Friday, 2014-02-28, 8:45 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Yip the social engineers must be rubbing their hands in glee, how bloody stupid and naïve can a community be?
The answer will be answered by others, when academics in the future are researching as to what ever happened to the Ulster Protestant community in their beloved Ulster who followed a self-destructive path into the big green Irish bog, like so many before them.
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| Culzie | Date: Friday, 2014-02-28, 8:37 PM | Message # 9 |
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| This is from a wee booklet I bought at Ards Market. I bought it at a Loyalist stall just before the dirty dealing was done. The Loyalist stall usually had loyalist music playing all the time, and a good lot of other loyalist stuff. But that soon disappeared from the stall, and it became neutral, to the extent of playing Irish music instead of the loyalist music it had been playing. So this man in the 1980s/90s was warning of what was in store. Indeed what was happening even then.
He's writing about the 1641 massacres
Alan Campbell B.A. ..........The sad fact is that today the events of 1641 are very largely forgotten, they have become censored history. Whilst it is impossible as yet to expunge from the pages of our history books the Siege of Londonderry or the Battle of the Boyne ( although every effort is made to minimise, belittle and misrepresent these events), the Massacre of 1641 has suffered a historical blackout.......Our people are unlikely to hear the facts from the Church pulpits where ecumenical and apostate clergy continually tell their flocks that we must forget our unhappy divisions.......Our children will definitely not hear of this major event which influenced all Ulster history thereafter, for in the schools today by the State-enforced Education for Mutual Understanding (so called) every effort is being made to emphasise our supposedly shared culture and heritage, thereby accelerating the process of de-Protestantism in preparation for the final push towards a united Roman Catholic dominated Irish Republic.
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| RSAUB | Date: Friday, 2014-02-28, 9:41 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Good old Alan Campbell telling it how it is, one of the very few to stand up consistently for Ulster and her people.
What he say's is absolutely true, recent documentaries have shown quite clearly that our youth don't know why we build bonfires or celebrate the Battle of the Boyne, you can bet many have never even heard of the 1641 rebellion, indeed some may even swallow Irish Republican propaganda that the whole thing was a myth.
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| Culzie | Date: Saturday, 2014-03-01, 0:04 AM | Message # 11 |
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| Think that's why 1641 is played down. The missus,grandson and myself went to Bloody Bridge a few years back and laid some flowers there. I tried to get a few more interested but there were no takers. I think too, that it shows the RCs up, and that's why it is not recognised as it should be (it
might offend them). They are the ones who have a monopoly on suffering, and we are always to be shown as the perpetrators. So 1641 has to be a no-no.
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| RSAUB | Date: Saturday, 2014-03-01, 7:22 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Yip, I think you have it summed up there to a tee. Anything that shows the Irish up for what they are, has to be done away with, even now you only have to look at the mural of King William of Orange in Sandy Row, there's nothing cultural about it, more a historical statement of facts wrote on it, nothing whatsoever relating to folk culture on it, but that might be triumphalist and that's not acceptable to the social engineers with their check books
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