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New Hope For The Row
CulzieDate: Thursday, 2008-07-24, 8:31 PM | Message # 1
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Re the video about Sandy Row to be honest it was a bit depressing. But maybe some hope is on the horizon. There are new houses being built at Albion St etc. There are already some houses in Albion St. The only street on that side to be built back up. Lets hope they expand this to take in the other areas lying empty at the moment.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ni/?id=2008-04-29.4.1


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RSAUBDate: Monday, 2008-07-28, 2:37 AM | Message # 2
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Let's hope sandy row can be made great once again, this year over the twelfth it seemed to have slightly more life about it than last year. We all know that the government went out of it's way to destroy the Unionist majorities in inner-city Belfast but there's no reason why more housing cannot be built in Sandy row and with it's excellent location there's no reason why there wouldn't be a demand from Protestants for affordable accommodation in Sandy row.

I think with the price of petrol and so on rising, we might see more and more people who commute to work deciding to relocate into areas like Sandy row or Protestants in inner city Belfast who might be thinking of moving out of Belfast deciding to remain in the city, also the increasing numbers of Protestant students deciding to study at home and with work on the decline in many parts of Northern Ireland we might start to see Protestant numbers in the capital city increasing. From working with a few students over the past few months from the North of Ulster some a them are looking to stay down in Belfast for good.

 
CulzieDate: Tuesday, 2008-07-29, 3:53 PM | Message # 3
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Thats good to hear. Some good news there RSAUB. In that piece Ritchie made a statement,something like ...''there is a low demand for houses in the area''. There was'nt a big waiting list.

Nows the time to get a lot of names on that list and create a demand. As you say what with the price of petrol etc,it would suit a lot of people to live in the area. Especially young Prods going to Queens etc..

Ian Adamson lived in Sandy Row when he was attending Queens. Think I read that somewhere.


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RSAUBDate: Tuesday, 2008-07-29, 10:52 PM | Message # 4
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Yes, people like M.Richie will do what ever she can to stop development in loyalist areas unless it's cross-community development which her kind are all for, but if the demand for housing in the area is high then she has no real argument not to provide more accommodation, community groups and so on, should be making sure anyone who is even remotely interested in a house in the area gets there name down on the list.
 
CulzieDate: Wednesday, 2008-07-30, 7:11 PM | Message # 5
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Yes, people like M.Richie will do what ever she can to stop development in loyalist areas unless it's cross-community development which her kind are all for, but if the demand for housing in the area is high then she has no real argument not to provide more accommodation, community groups and so on, should be making sure anyone who is even remotely interested in a house in the area gets there name down on the list.

Yeah if the demand is high,they can't use lack of demand as an excuse,which she seemed to be hinting at in that article. Its up to the various organisations in the area to pull together on this one. Surely they will get themselves organised, and go forward together.

The land is there and its time to say enough is enough.


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CulzieDate: Tuesday, 2008-09-02, 2:43 PM | Message # 6
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Bob Stoker was on the Nolan Show talking about Sandy Row. He mentioned this site [below]. Not sure I would be for what they seem to be trying to do. They talk about welcoming young professionals to the area,and the high-rise apartments. I think they should be directing their energies toward obtaining more social housing for the Row.

Anyway here it is. http://www.sandyrow.co.uk/live.aspx


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RSAUBDate: Tuesday, 2008-09-02, 11:03 PM | Message # 7
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On a personal note I hate high-rise flats, looking to attract young professionals to the area will be a travesty in my opinion.

I hate talking about class in loyalism, some of the best loyalists I know could be described as middle class, however let's be blunt, how many of these young professionals will care about loyalism, will want to fly a flag, will want the curbs red,white and blue, will want to hear lambegs playing and band parades taking part outside their homes etc, things which may bring down the value of their property, very few in my opinion, most young professionals are your liberal snotty nosed types. Sandy row is what it is and that's a loyalist area steeped in history and should remain as such, we as loyalists must do everything in our power to maintain it as what it is and that's one of our areas, places like sandy row aren't nothing to be ashamed about, there something to be proud off. Social housing for Protestant families is what is needed, keep the community spirit, certainly not break it and make it into yet another lifeless mixed area. Sandy Row is one of the very few real inner city loyalist areas left, we cannot let it be changed the same way the Lisburn Road has went, I can remember 10 years ago, there was still a fair bit of loyalism about it, plenty a houses the whole way up it had the flags out and some streets the bunting, over time it's gradually changed due to the students, foreigners and these trendy young professionals, surely loyalists in South Belfast can finely turn round and say enough is enough

 
CulzieDate: Thursday, 2008-09-04, 3:02 PM | Message # 8
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I was up the Shankill on Sat afternoon. Coming back down the road I heard a bit of 'jabbering' behind me,as these people passed I could see they were foreign people. In Sandy Row,later waiting for the 'Black' to return. I was talking to a fella I knew who lived in the Row. Out of the blue he said to me....''did you see the flags down the street there'' I said ''aye I noticed them''. He said ''I put them all up myself''. Nobody was bothering,making excuses, they'd no holders etc. So he went and got the 'necessarys' and landed at their doorsteps complete with holders,drill etc.

It shouldn't have been left to him. But just goes to show where the great loyal Sandy Row is going. An area that once had three Orange Arches on its main throughfare and a few more down the side streets.

Ther'e taking the murals away in Loyalist areas. Will Bobby Sands be coming down? Very much doubt it.


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Gadsden1775Date: Sunday, 2009-06-21, 12:01 PM | Message # 9
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It's not at all hard to see why 'they' don't want to redevelope social housing in areas like Sandy Row, what with the troubles calmed down and the blending in process in top gear. The real estate potential of inner city Belfast will go through the roof, hence the reason for attracting young professionals into exorbitantly priced concrete coffins. Corporate profit at it's best, ethnic cleansing at it's worst. angry

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CulzieDate: Sunday, 2009-06-21, 1:14 PM | Message # 10
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True Gadsden. But these things don't seem to happen in inner-city nationalist areas. I'm thinking of the 'markets' and the short strand areas.

I e-mailed the Sandy Row website re this issue. That was about 6 months ago or more. I'm still waiting on a reply. sad


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Gadsden1775Date: Sunday, 2009-06-21, 2:59 PM | Message # 11
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Yip, that would sound about right Culzie. Sending emails though doesn't seem to get much effect these days, be it to Groups or Politicians, it used to be an old excuse that paperwork got lost, these days it's the computers that make mistakes.

But we all know about computers (they never get it wrong), it's the people using them. wink

Remember the glory days of H&W, they were all too grateful for protestant labour in those days. But as it's cheaper to get someone else to built ships these days it's out the window yet again for the old Ulsterman. angry


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