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Our history lessons are 'worst n West'
RSAUBDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 2:21 AM | Message # 1
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Our history lessons are 'worst in West': Failing curriculum needs overhaul, says academic

History teaching in England is among the worst in the western world, a Cambridge University don has warned in a devastating report.

Youngsters are taught a ‘mis-cellany of disconnected fragments’ and examined on barely anything before 1870, he claimed, missing out on vast swathes of British, European and world history.

Professor Robert Tombs, a history fellow at St John’s College, Cambridge, said it was ‘difficult to name’ a European country that taught the subject so poorly.

In the report, released today, the professor demanded an overhaul of the subject, and published an alternative curriculum featuring 36 key events in British history that all secondary school pupils should study.

Very few current GCSE courses examine history before 1870, he said, with more attention often paid to skills such as evaluating sources rather than acquiring knowledge.

While coverage is broader at A-level, he said the late middle ages and most of the 18th century are hardly touched.

‘Over-specialisation on a few topics crowds out vast areas of history,’ he said. ‘Scant attention’ is paid to the British Empire, despite its far-reaching implications in global history.

By contrast, countries including France, Germany and Australia are already teaching, or moving towards, a broad chronological sweep of world and national history.

Professor Tombs also condemned ‘dismal’ marking, saying: ‘Many examiners seem to know little about the topics they mark.’

The report, published by the Politeia think-tank, comes as the Government considers major curriculum reforms.

Education Secretary Michael Gove has announced a radical shake-up of all subjects. Proposals are being drawn up for introduction in September 2014.

In his report, Professor Tombs said history education in schools had ‘little in common with real historical study’.

Pupils typically study a random array of topics including Tudor England, the native peoples of America, the Industrial Revolution in England and the Nazis.

Some study Hitler three times during their school career.

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RSAUBDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 2:22 AM | Message # 2
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This just hasn't happened by accident! They are out to destroy our Nation by making our youth have no pride in their Country or their Nations past!
 
CulzieDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 2:32 PM | Message # 3
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Thats what it's all about. To take away any sense of tradition and culture that was left among the young people. I could see this sort of thing unfolding before my very eyes. Even the Rangers were not free of interference in this respect. The whole face of the UK was changeing and the old ways were to be ditched.Keep the young 'uns happy with music,MTV and TV in general. Have them eating foreign foods instead of traditionl British food. That might seem laughable but food plays an important part in our lives and acceptance of foreign food into our midst can at least play a part in the multi-racial intergration going on in our country. Reggae music too was another import which was taken in by British young people.

A man I knew years was a great Ranger's supporter but he was one of the 'old school'. He took his kids to church on a regular basis and was a member of the OO and Black. Rangers was his big love but when Rangers started to play football on a Sunday he stopped supporting them. It was a traditional thing with him and Rangers were a Protestant Club with their own Presbyterian Chaplin etc. At least he was spared the Mo Johnson thing as he died before that happened. But the Lottery,Saints Days have all helped to take away the old traditions of the UK. It is definitely a different society we now live in and I can't see any sign of it changing for the good.

Again I believe America was behind all these new ways. They have no long history themselves and set out to make everybody think like them. As we look round the world today we can see they have succeeded. In some ways I can see where the muslims are coming from in rejecting Americanism and sticking to their traditions. Though their methods stink.


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RSAUBDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 3:58 PM | Message # 4
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Yeah, I have a lot of respect for the Muslims and other ethnic minorities they stick to their traditions and beliefs, regardless of how their viewed by the majority. Yet our lot bend over backwards too appease.

In all honesty, I can't see any-way back for the British Nation, demographics are against us and whole generations of now grown up with no sense of identity and when you look at how many people are happy to live off benefits and let their kids run wild, you can really see how little pride these people have in themselves or their communities.
 
CulzieDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 5:30 PM | Message # 5
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Yes I agree RSAUB. And yes there are those who let their kids run wild and have no interest in what they do or get up to. But another side to it is that these 'bleeding hearts' came on the scene and also social workers. They took away a lot of the authority within a household. The teachers too, told young 'uns they had a mind of their own and did not have to listen to their parents or do what they were told. I think with some parents they just decided 'oh well then you look after things,you sort them out'.

When that hit me was when it was reported in the paper that a man from Ballybeen (Enler something) had caught his daughter taking drugs and had gave her a bit of a 'hiding' (most working class families got that in the old days,there is even a thread on the Belfast Forum about those days and all having a wee bit of a laugh about it). He was taken to court and fined £400. That was a big eye-opener. Things were changing bigtime, Before that a kid in America (again) had taken his parents to court for assult.

One of the reasons for this change was a book by a guy called Dr Spock (no not Star Wars) an American (i think) and he wrote about children and how they should be treated. This was in the 1960s and he became the guru the 'in thing' of that time. But I think he had written this book in the 1940s but it had been rejected by the people of that age. However, the sixties people were ripe for this sort of message and they took up what he had preached 20 years earlier. We see the result today.


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RSAUBDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 5:54 PM | Message # 6
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Very true, the bleeding heart liberals have a lot to answer for. Taking away the authority within the home, by god if kids grow up not even having any discipline from their parents, how the hell are they meant to take their teachers or even police officers seriously. I have seen cases myself were kids have openly told police officers to f-off and throw stones at peoples windows, then tell the person "that if they hit them, they will get the peelers on them". Bloody disgrace, but that's the way society is now, messed up in the extreme!
 
CulzieDate: Monday, 2012-04-30, 9:19 PM | Message # 7
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Yeah they were responsible for a lot of this and a good few of them were teachers with their new anything goes attitude. I say hell slap it into them when I hear them complain about behaviour of the children in the classroom. It was their ilk who sowed the seeds of this behaviour. The lefties coming out of university and taking up teaching jobs. Now its come back to 'bite them in the bum'.

I saw fellas of 20,21 playing football in the street run like hell if the peelers came on the scene. Maybe not so much as being scared of them. More to do with any acts of wrong doing which involved the police was only bringing disgrace on the family. Sounds crazy now in this world but thats the way it was. Having a good name was paramount. Not saying all families were like that but a helluva of them were. I would say the majority.


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