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Orangemen,Ribbonmen and St Patrick's Day
CulzieDate: Thursday, 2012-11-01, 5:31 PM | Message # 1
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Some excerpts from a history of Orangeism book...

'others cold not see why the processions should be banned,while the Freemasons paraded on St John's Day and the Ribbonmen marched with banners on St Patrick's Day.

On the 17th of March,just twelve days after the arch agitator (a reference to O'Connell)had circulated his appeal,the Ribbonmen held processions in several parts of the country;and where opportunity served,they violently assailed the Protestants.

The sting of the Castle circular was in the date of its issue. No such manifesto was published, previous to the 17th of March and on that day bodies of Ribbonmen paraded.

The Ribbonmen were again allowed to parade on St Patrick's Day,and the Masonic on St John's Day free of any interference from the authorities.Naturally the Orangemen resented this partiality which singled them out.

The 17th of March was arranged to be the day on which they would make a display of their physical strength.

A cause of deep anxiety to the leaders of the Orangemen at this time was the constant provocation offered not only to the rank and file of their Order,but to the Protestant community generally by the Ribbon lodges. These kept up their parades on St Patrick's Day and all Saint's Day - the 17th of March and the 15th of August.


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CulzieDate: Friday, 2012-11-30, 9:48 PM | Message # 2
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St Patrick's Day Riot in Crossgar

The apprehension so expressed was fully justified by what occurred on the 17th of March,when a terrible riot in the neighbourhood led to the loss of four lives. On that day the Ribbonmen celebrated St Patrick's Day by gathering into Crossgar from all the surrounding districts and even as far away as Belfast. It was estimated that between 7,000 and 8,000 people were present,including ''ferocious looking women and ragged children'',and many of them decorated with sashes,carried firearms,pikes and other weapons. A riot was only narrowly averted,and every precaution was excercised to keep the peace.

The processionists,however,attempted to pass up Killyleagh Street,an almost exclusively Orange quarter. A cordon of fifty police was quickly drawn across the throughfare, but, instantly the police carried out this movement,they were furiously attacked by the Ribbonmen and their followers. Shots were then exchanged.

At the inquest upon those killed,the Coroner, Mr. B. Ward,cast the blame of the affair upon the Government. The leader writer in the Belfast News Letter, a few days later took a similar view. Let it be enforced (Party Processions Act) against both parties alike. Let there not be, as in times past,one law for the Ribbonmen and another for the Orangemen.

We remember the year when the Orangemen were pining in jail for a breach of the Party Processions Act on the 12th of July,while the Ribbonmen flapped their flags against the prison windows as they passed on St Patrick's Day.


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CulzieDate: Sunday, 2013-01-13, 8:50 PM | Message # 3
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In James Webb's book 'Born Fighting' referring to a recent census in the States where some have said they are Irish when really they are Ulster-Scots/Scots-Irish he says

''Interestingly,more than half of these are of Scots-Irish ancestry. This fact is rarely recognized even by Protestants of Scots-Irish descent,MANY OF WHOM MAY BE FOUND HAPPILY WEARING THE GREEN AND MARCHING IN ST PATRICK'S DAY PARADES.

So it seems that Mr Webb is a wee bit suprised by this. Think he'd be even more suprised if he visited Ulster today smile

And goodness knows what the Orangemen of the bygone days mentioned earlier would think of their present day brethren.


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RSAUBDate: Tuesday, 2013-01-15, 2:52 PM | Message # 4
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They would turn in their graves, but then those who went before us, weren't just interested in grant money and truly believed in their cause and didn't suffer an identity crisis like our people now who feel the need to hold on to the Irishmens shirt tails.
 
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