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SINN FEIN TO OPPOSE NEW UK-STYLE ‘FBI
BillstickerDate: Wednesday, 2013-01-30, 10:29 PM | Message # 1
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SINN FEIN TO OPPOSE NEW UK-STYLE ‘FBI’
January 28, 2013   
Sinn Fein MLA Pat Sheehan
http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013....yle-fbi

Sinn Fein MLA Pat Sheehan

SINN FEIN told the Assembly on Monday that it would continue to block the draft Westminster legislation for the ‘National Crimes Agency’ at the Executive. Blocking the legisation means the NCA cannot operate in Northern Ireland. And its officers will have no powers of a police constable and cannot conduct searches in the province.

West Belfast Pat Sheehan MLA said: “Under the draft Westminster legislation the ‘National Crimes Agency’ (NCA) would not be accountable to the normal accountable mechanisms negotiated over the last number of years. “Sinn Féin will continue to seek to have the legislation amended as we clearly recognise the imperative of co-operation between different agencies to combat organised crime.

“However, the primacy of the PSNI in combating organised crime, indeed all criminality, is paramount in addition to the need for all agencies to be accountable to the accountability mechanisms already put in place.” However, Justice Mnister David Ford said he believed it was the wrong decision.

And the DUP accused Sinn Fein of playing politics with policing. North Antrim MP Ian Paisley Jnr said: “The NCA is set up to deal with pornography, sex crimes, the transit of prostitutes… to deal with internationally based criminality. Why would anyone want to be on the wrong side of that argument?”

The police are understood to share the justice minister’s concerns about the potential implications of the decision. The PSNI has repeatedly warned that Northern Ireland is increasingly being targeted by international crime gangs operating on a global scale. They believe that cooperation with the NCA is essential.
 
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Crime Agency ‘shouldn’t have policing powers

Crime Agency ‘shouldn’t have policing powers’
�Press Eye Ltd Northern Ireland -17th November 2012 TUV Leader Jim Allister pictured at the annual conference at the Royal Hotel in Cookstown . Mandatory Credit - Picture by Stephen Hamilton/Presseye.com

By Philip Bradfield
Published on Wednesday 30 January 2013 08:42

THE SDLP yesterday insisted that officers in the new FBI-style agency tasked to fight organised crime across the UK should have no law enforcement powers in Northern Ireland.

The party made the comments as the News Letter uncovered in detail concessions that Justice Minister David Ford claims he has won for himself and his Executive colleagues as the draft legislation for the National Crime Agency (NCA) is processed through Westminster.

Mr Ford says the Home Secretary is prepared to make certain concessions if the Assembly agrees to Westminster enacting the legislation for Northern Ireland.

However, the Executive has not agreed to the Home Secretary’s terms and discussions on what happens next are ongoing between the director-general of the NCA and some Northern Ireland political representatives.

Despite Mr Ford’s assurances, the SDLP and Sinn Fein have expressed serious concerns that the new agency would be unaccountable to local politicians and would undermine confidence in policing.

The NCA is due to replace the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) this year and will be answerable to the Home Office. It had been intended it will have powers to direct local police forces to carry out operations against gangs involved in areas such as drug smuggling, human trafficking and child pornography.

Officers in the existing agency which the NCA will succeed, SOCA, can currently be designated with the powers of a police constable, customs officer, immigration officer, or a combination of these, depending on operations. However the SDLP says that in future, NCA officers should have no more powers than civilians.

SDLP justice spokesperson Alban Maginness told the News Letter yesterday that while accepting Mr Ford’s sincerity, the only assurances his party would accept about the NCA were those which are set down in legislation. His party’s two key demands are that:

n Individual NCA officers in Northern Ireland should not have the legal powers of normal police officers and should be put on the same legal footing as civilians;

n That the NCA should not have the power to run agents in Northern Ireland and to use subsequent intelligence.


TUV leader Jim Allister said yesterday the Executive veto could result in a “ludicrous” situation where the NCA could investigate terrorist-related matters in Northern Ireland – because these are not devolved – but would be powerless to investigate any related organised crime matters. Mr Maginness responded that “such a situation could arise but I think it highly unlikely”.

In light of his own concerns and those of his Executive colleagues, Mr Ford said he has won some special concessions for Northern Ireland in the proposed legislation, including:

n That the NCA director-general (DG) would not have the powers of a constable in Northern Ireland, meaning there would not be two Chief Constables with authority here and the PSNI would have primacy;

n The DG may not direct PSNI officers, unlike in England and Wales;

n The NCA would be subject to the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland;

n NCA special support staff, who can provide additional expertise, would not have the powers of constables here, as opposed to the position in England and Wales;

n The justice minister would be consulted on the NCA’s strategic and annual plans.


Other assurances the justice minister has been given but which are not yet secured in legislation are that the NCA director-general would meet the Policing Board at least once a year and would be required to take account of the NI policing plan. There are also plans for a memorandum of understanding between the police and NCA which will include a local group chaired by the PSNI which would coordinate operations of all Northern Ireland law enforcement agencies, including NCA. The memorandum would also require consultation with the NI Policing Board by the justice minister on the NCA annual and strategic plans.

Mr Ford said this week on the issue: “I think there is a real danger that if it doesn’t go ahead that there will be very significant costs to the police both in terms of time and finances and we will have an inferior response to the serious organised crime that we face.”

Speaking in the Commons last year, the then Secretary of State Owen Paterson said the NCA would operate in a way that “respects the accountability mechanisms in Northern Ireland”.

Mr Paterson added: “In effect, no direction will go forward without the compliance of the Chief Constable.”

UUP justice spokesman Tom Elliott said there was a danger of the NCA being reduced to a weak and ineffective body if the Government agreed to concessions in a bid to placate political parties.

“Many people will be intrigued and no doubt alarmed at the revelation that attempts have been made to secure concessions regarding the operation of the National Crime Agency within Northern Ireland in order to placate Sinn Fein and the SDLP,” he said. “This immediately leads to three questions. Just who has been ‘negotiating’ these compromises, on whose authority and what exactly do they entail? What we must avoid is a situation whereby so many concessions are sought by Sinn Fein the SDLP and indeed the justice minister, that the National Crime Agency in Northern Ireland is made so weak that its effectiveness is compromised.”

But Sinn Fein MLA Pat Sheehan said that by backing the Westminster NCA legislation as it currently stands “the Assembly would be handing over primacy for fighting organised and serious crime to an unaccountable agency”.

He said: “The British Home Secretary would appoint the NCA director-general who would be accountable only to the British Home Secretary.

“How the NCA would operate and its governance and accountability arrangements will be issued by the British Home Secretary, the Department of Justice will be consulted but agreement is not required.

“The way the legislation reads at the minute would give Westminster licence to exercise powers already transferred on policing and justice under terms of the Good Friday, St Andrews and Hillsborough Agreements.”

He added: “Sinn Fein recognises the imperative of co-operation between different agencies to combat organised crime but we will not accept two-tier and unaccountable policing that supercedes the authority of the current policing structures.”

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When this news gets out Ulster is going to become crime central with big time criminals when they realise that by using Northern Ireland they can thumb their noses at otherwise effective anti crime agencies here who will be totally hamstrung by clever lawyers who will inevitably have carte blanche to fleece the taxpayers with hugely costly and complex legal cases which result in the worst kind of criminals foreign and domestic walking as this "political policing" deal will in practice make them like teflon.


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Its a shocking state of affairs when the bombers and murderers can veto whatever they don't like. Of course Robinson and his cronies signed up to this so its not unexpected. If anyone thought that the shinners and the sdlp were going to fall neatly into line are living on another planet. This is what unionists (dup) signed up to at Hillsborough when the DUP again bowed to the wishes of the shinners.

The shinners are playing a brilliant game and the dupers are away out of their depth.


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