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Culzie | Date: Thursday, 2010-10-14, 4:24 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Good enough article by Lord Laird until he gets to this part and says this... As to whether I could accept a Sinn Fein first minister, I can't be a democrat on Wednesday and not on Thursday. So it seems he may accept that if a majority agrees to an all-ireland then he will go along with that too. This is despite the fact that the Unionist Party was elected democratcially for 50 years and nationalists/republicans refused to accept the democracy of the ballot box. Democracy was out and a new word (to me) was put in its place and became the 'in word'. This word was CONSENSUS. Yet unionist make no mention of this choosing to talk about democracy instead. Is this their get out clause. The usual ''what can we do about it'' http://www.newsletter.co.uk/union....1130.jp
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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RSAUB | Date: Friday, 2010-10-15, 9:31 PM | Message # 2 |
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| true, on a personal note I don’t believe in democracy, I believe that people like Gerry Adams etc should be hanging from the gallows. May be unrealistic and never going to happen, but purely on a personal level I can’t accept those who’s ambition and ultimate objective is the destruction of our community and Country.
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Culzie | Date: Sunday, 2010-10-17, 7:46 PM | Message # 3 |
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| True,but in days gone by it was the big thing, democracy was always held up as something wonderful. Maybe understandable when you consider what had went before and what is still happening in some countries But I agree it is open to abuse by people like Adams who can literally murder or have people murdered and still walk into goverment. Yes its beyond belief that gangsters and murderers can sit in goverment. By that guide then Hitler should have been in goverment with Churchill and Bin Laden with Bush or Obama. But of course what republicans have going for them is the aul irish thing again. Ireland is one unit and we are all Irish. They are fighting to unite a country which was artifically divided, and I believe that successive British goverment have sympathy with that point of view. We I suggest are looked on as Vichy french or Quislings supporting a 'foreign' regime in our midst. The only way round that argument that I can see is to develope Ulster (or whatever we care to call it) as a separate and distinct identity in its own right. This identity has thousands of years of history behind it. Maybe sounds crazy but the message should be sent out that Adams,McGuinness and republicans/nationalists are the ones who are the Quislings by supporting a foreign country...Eire. ULSTER FOR THE ULLISH! should be the answer 'to ireland for the irish'
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Slappataig | Date: Monday, 2010-10-18, 12:58 PM | Message # 4 |
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| completely stand by every word you said there culzie. deserted, ill still stand alone.
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Culzie | Date: Monday, 2010-10-18, 3:00 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Think there are still a few of us about Slappa. In the words of the song.We're not so very many but were loyal and we're true
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| Lord Laird, formerly known as John Dunn Laird, was a notable British politician and life peer. He served as a member of the House of Lords, contributing to various debates and legislative processes. Known for his involvement in public relations and Northern Ireland affairs, Lord Laird's career spanned both political and business sectors. He passed away in 2018, leaving a legacy of public service. https://plumbingheatingcoolingnj.com/
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oliviamaya | Date: Tuesday, 2024-07-23, 10:29 AM | Message # 13 |
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| Lord Laird's ideas are interesting until he starts to question whether Sinn Fein should be part of democratic government. He thinks a lot about democracy and consensus, and worries how these ideas affect how Northern Ireland is governed. His doubts about using consensus in a place with a history of disagreements need more thinking and discussion.
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