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Bulgaria and Romania Citizens to deluge UK from 31/12/2013
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| Billsticker | Date: Saturday, 2013-01-26, 1:05 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Bulgaria and Romania Citizens to deluge UK from 31/12/2013
Next year 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules. The severe economic crisis engulfing the rest of Europe a secret report by our own government shows that the British labour market will suffer “adverse effects” as a result.
Both the countries’ citizens currently have restricted rights to come to Britain since they joined the European Union in 2007, but those limits end on 31 December 2013, opening the way for them to move freely.
A double whammey of grinding poverty and non exsistant state handouts in these two countries means that a large proportion of those 30 million people are already packing their bags.
Our government is acting like the three monkeys, resolutely in denial and neither hearing seeing and speaking about any of this and pretending the deluge wont happen because they know under current EU rules theres ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO PREVENT IT AS WE NO LONGER CONTROL OUR OWN BORDERS.
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| Culzie | Date: Saturday, 2013-01-26, 3:59 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I heard a woman on the Talkback show with David Dunseith say that she had to get out of a Balkan country (just forget which one it was). She had ended up in Ulster and told Dunseith that her life was under threat and that why she didn't want to return. But why was she in Ulster? Once she got out of the country where she felt threatened in she was alright. But instead she had made her way across Europe to get to the UK. Old soft touch UK once again.
Its been on the news today that the UK is giving aid to Syria of £21 million. This will bring the amount since the trouble began there to £89 million.
And they keep telling us that the country has no money and people will have to tighten their belts even more. We are in a double-dip recession. I don't believe that. If they can hand out money like that,no way can I take them seriously and there has been a lot of other money handed out besides the amount to Syria.
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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| Billsticker | Date: Sunday, 2013-01-27, 2:02 AM | Message # 3 |
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| Were actually facing a triple dip recession. There is no sanction for us the poor bloody taxpayer about exactly how our money is spent. Once we have voted the people in power can spend it on whatever crazy scheme they feel like and we have no further say in the matter apart from a patronising pat on the head as apparently only they and the bankers know best.
They are even dreaming up new stealth taxes as we speak like putting a 20% VAT charge on supermarket cooked chickens from October 2013 at the same time as handing millionaires a £100,000 reduction in their tax bills so now we know who is going to pay for that one and how namely you and me.
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| Culzie | Date: Sunday, 2013-01-27, 6:05 PM | Message # 4 |
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| True,that is the attitude taken by the government and I have saw it in operation in clubs etc where a treasurer is elected and the finiances of the club are not read out on a regular basis. The attitude being ..we were elected to this position and don't need to read out how the club stands. We decide,we can do what we want. Its the same with governments.
The millions being handed out to countries is disgraceful while at the same time they are hitting their own people. They have handed out millions to Mugabe and said later that they would hand out more millions which was promised him. This despite him behaving appallingy in his own country.
It was the banks and those at the top who were responsible for a lot of what has happened,but as you say these are the ones who are being looked after while the ordinary folk bear the burden for their mis-management.
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| Billsticker | Date: Tuesday, 2013-01-29, 1:08 AM | Message # 5 |
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| IF THIS ONE WASN'T SO SERIOUS IT WOULD BE HILARIOUS!!
EVEN MORE TAX PAYER CASH TO GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE EUROPE CONTROLS OUR BORDERS NOT US!!!!!
'Don't come to Britain, it's horrible and wet': New advertising campaign aims to put Romanian and Bulgarian immigrants off a new life in the UK
http://www.independent.co.uk/news....82.html
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Monday 28 January 2013
Government ministers are contemplating running a negative ad campaign to put off eastern European immigrants who plan on coming to Britain, reports have claimed. The measure is reported to be among ideas being considered by officials seeking ways to curb the expected arrivals from the two newest EU member states when temporary restrictions expire in December.
The plan is one of a number of potential strategies the government is said to be considering to stem immigration to Britain next year. One report over the weekend quotes a minister as saying that negative adverts could "correct the impression that the streets here are paved with gold".
The Telegraph claims that ministers are concerned that if hundreds of thousands of people come to the UK it will mean the Coalition misses its net migration targets. The adverts would focus on the negative aspects of coming to Britain, with an emphasis on the weather, reports claim.
As well as running negative ads ministers are also thought to be contemplating compelling Romanians and Bulgarians to show they have the means to support themselves for six months after arrival in the UK. The Home Office has not yet issued an official estimate on how many of the 29 million Romanian and Bulgarian citizens will choose to move to Britain in 2014.
Ministers are said to be wary of the situation when Poland joined the Union and much larger numbers than predicted came to the UK. Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has admitted the influx would "cause problems" with services such as housing, with the highest numbers likely to pick London boroughs which already have significant populations from the countries.
However, he insisted it was not "reasonable" to assume that 300,000 would move to the UK - the figure suggested by some Tories based on migration levels after Poland, the Czech Republic, Latvia and Lithuania acceded. The Government has confirmed it will not seek to extend temporary curbs on 29 million Romanian and Bulgarian nationals' right to live and work in Britain, which are due to expire in December.
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| Culzie | Date: Tuesday, 2013-01-29, 6:09 PM | Message # 6 |
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| When they set out on this course surely they knew how things would work out. They can't be that daft. Over the years it has taught me anything which is changed or demanded is not the end of it. It is but the thin end of the wedge and the more you concede the more you are expected to concede. I think when it was opened up to the Poles and other eastern Europeans,Labour said it would amount to 16,000 people coming in (think that was the number),but of course it was away above that figure.
I heard a man talking to his mates at the next table to me. He was saying that the chapel near to him had very few going to it,but then he noticed big crowds queing up to get in. These were the Poles newly arrived,and this was in a Protestant area.
In a way I don't blame the people coming in,they are going to 'rip it off' as long as they are getting away with it. It is those at the top who have brought this situation about. But also the people of the UK bear some blame for this as they have consistently refused to vote (in big enough numbers) for parties who are against this immigration.
Ulster Protestants consider themselves to be a separate nation. This nation they call Ulster
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| Billsticker | Date: Wednesday, 2013-01-30, 10:12 PM | Message # 7 |
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| The biggest problem here is that we are part of the European Union and due entirely to that we have no say whatever in who may cross our borders any more. THAT IS CURRENTLY THE BUSINESS OF BRUSSELS & NOTHING TO DO WITH LONDON.. Its also a miricle we avoided joining the Euro like Tony blair intended us to or things here would be 10 times worse than they have become GREECE SPAIN AND EVEN FRANCE ADMITTED A FEW DAYS AGO THAT IT IS ENTIRELY BANKRUPT.
Mr Cameron is bamboozling folk with the promise of jam tomorrow with his promise of a referendum on the question of our membership. Hes only doing it because his back benchers are whinging because UKIP is threatening their cosy little earners as MPs and he came up with this wheeze to take the wind out of their sails and it is working like a charm.
I despair sometimes by how easily people are conned by theses smarmy crumb throwing cynical politicians like him.
Everyone thought Blair was a wonderful chap when in reality he cynically bankrupted our nation for his own personal gain then abandoned ship before the whole thing fell apart and left the hapless Gordon Brown to pick up the pieces and make an even worse job of it which given the state Blair left it in even getting us into a war on the strength of downright lies, wasnt hard.
Clegg is already scaring people by claiming that business and jobs will collapse if we leave the EU and its patent nonsense he is babbling. If we stay we will shortly be swamped by a flood of Romanians and Bulgarians who will work for well below the minimum wage and say nothing about it so where will UK citizens jobs be then. Plus Europe sells more to us than we buy from them and so theres no way they will suddenly stop wanting to sell us stuff if we quit so there will have to be a quid pro quo with our business selling to them.
Norway and Switzerland are both non EU members and trade fine with the rest of the continent but if you believed Clegg they should be on their knees third world and destitute because they stayed out. THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE they are both pretty well off countries. He will also try to frighten us by saying that if were not in Europe that like Switzerland and Norway we will have to abide by EU dictats but have no say in them Nonsense what he really means is that he and his cronies are scared that if we leave the EU they will be kicked out of hugely lucrative cushy overpaid European jobs which allow them to live the good life at monsterous expense to the taxpayer namely you and me!!
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| Culzie | Date: Thursday, 2013-02-07, 8:51 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Thats a good summing up of the situation. People have the alternatives of UKIP and the BNP to vote for and its up to the people. What you say is true but many people are reluctant to move away from Europe because as you say the fear tactics used by those politicans with cushy numbers.
Away back when it was the Common Market, De Gaulle blocked the UK from joining and said, that if it was for purely trading purposes (as the UK claimed) then they could join on that understanding. There were those at the time who opposed joining and that was in the 1960s. But as we all know Heath waited his chance and took us in in the 1970s
My opinion is that America wanted this to happen,and what America wants America gets our politicans are only too ready to kow-tow to them.
I don't know the ins and outs of it but if the UK by being in the USE has to take the Romanians and Bulgarians into our country then I can't see anyway of stopping it happening. We may go though the motions but if we have signed up to it then we are stuck with it. It happened with the Poles and others,so I can't see how they can treat these people differently, unless there a loophole?
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| Billsticker | Date: Friday, 2013-02-08, 9:56 PM | Message # 9 |
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| If there was a loop hole then our government wouldnt be reduced to issuing what amounrts to a begging letter to theses countries not to come here.
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| Culzie | Date: Monday, 2013-02-11, 4:56 PM | Message # 10 |
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| I think the thing is. All this has happened and we the people let it happen. We as a nation agreed with what our government was doing. Roy Jenkins and suprisingly Margaret Thatcher encouraged this influx of foreigners. Jenkins saying that the British people would have to accept the foreigners and THEIR ways and Thatcher (who came after him) saying that the foreigners would have to be helped finiancially.
This was a very big step away from the old maxim of ''when in Rome do as the Romans do. In other words adapt to the home nation's ways, and the idea of giving finance and benefits to the incoming thongs of newcomers was another move away from how things were originally.
Of course the protoype for this sort of thing was the Irish,who could come to mainland Britain and claim benefits immediately. People from Ulster going to work in England, not having a job and signing on for unemployment benefit had to wait six weeks before recieving any money. However,the Irish received unemployment money immediately.
Its a quirk of British governments that they treat the foreigner better than they do their own people.
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