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SlappataigDate: Thursday, 2008-09-04, 7:10 PM | Message # 16
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aye like 90% of our main media is controlled by taigs
 
CulzieDate: Thursday, 2008-09-04, 8:25 PM | Message # 17
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Yep I would say that sums it up P.P. We are hopeless at sticking together as a people. James Webb in his book appealed for his fellow Ulster-Scots to get together as an organised people. He got elected. Some say this was because of his book and how folk were learning about their Ulster forefathers. So maybe we are moving in the right direction. Its the only way to get anything done nowdays. Although we have to learn to cry plenty yet. wink

The Irish on the other hand are well organised( and cry plenty). I think maybe this may have something to do with only having the one church. Freedom of speech and choice is a great thing,but it can work against you. Especially if your adversary is one united unit.


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CulzieDate: Thursday, 2008-09-04, 8:30 PM | Message # 18
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Right there Slappa. But I think we are somtimes to blame ourselves. The Baird Brothers sold the Telegraph and eventually now it is in Dublin control. We don't support the N.L. and it could go the same way.

Ulster Television had Unionist 'main men' there. But it too, is no longer what it was.


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PalmettoPatriotDate: Thursday, 2008-09-04, 9:50 PM | Message # 19
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Understand I'm not anti-Irish. I'm just pro-Ulster-Scots and self-determination. I know the tension creates problems there. In Dixie it's a different atmosphere. There were relatively few Irish and they just sort of blended in to the White Southron mainstream (which was mostly Ulster-Scots but also composed of smaller numbers of some Germans, English, Cajuns and Irish - as well as other groups in very small numbers). Anyhow, I just point this out because I don't want to come across as something I'm not. But the culture of my land is very similiar to the culture of Ulster. The people have a shared history - they were formed at almost the same time (Belfast was recognised as a town in 1606 I believe while Virginia was settled in 1607). Though I realise there were cultural differences in present-day Ulster going back long before the Scots movement to Ulster in the 1600's. Anyhow, I'm rambling, just trying to cover some bases... and probably doing a poor job of it. lol Later y'all

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PS I wore the blue Ulster shirt with the Red Hand on it that you gave me, Culzie, in my latest video. It's about the RedShirts. Don't know if you recollect but I told you a little bit about them when we were in that bar near Mr Kerr's office.

 
CulzieDate: Friday, 2008-09-05, 4:50 PM | Message # 20
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Well I wouldn't expect you PalmettoPatriot to have the same beligerence towards the irish as we here would. Same as I would't have the same beligerence towards yankees as you would. The old saying...'you only bleed from your own wound' perhaps sums it up.

I wouldn't say your rambling P.P. I can see the picture your painting. Dixie was a different 'set-up' to Ulster,even away back then. And there were many different peoples from different backgrounds,although the Ulster-Scots possibily predominated. But whatever, I take your point about being pro-Ulster/Ulster-Scots without being anti-Irish.

On different scales I know. You had your Charleston and Richmond. We had our Belfast and Londonderry. But the hurt would be the same. Sherman a war criminal. Adams a war criminal,by to days definitions.

Yeah, I can remember you mentioning the Redshirts. Though I don't think it was on the Shankill. But maybe I've got my wires crossed. Glad you liked [and wore] the shirt. smile


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PalmettoPatriotDate: Friday, 2008-09-05, 7:29 PM | Message # 21
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Yeah, in many ways I compare our situation as Southrons to the Afrikaners. South Africa was settled firstly by the Dutch-speaking Afrikaners with large numbers of English coming in later. But the basis of the country was Afrikaner. That's like Dixie. Others came in later but the basis of our culture and outlook was and still is (amongst those of us who remain) Ulster-Scots. Some Germans and Irish and others came in too but had less of a cultural impact and basically assimilated to the ways of the area. (Although in that respect the analogy with S.A. breaks down since most English didn't adapt Afrikaner ways in that country - in fact, many of the English opposed the Afrikaner government). There's no perfect analogy though. lol

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Ever noticed the ethnic makeup of American TV? Remember that these programs are ALL made in California (which has a White minority now) or New York - which is a giant cesspool. If these programs were made in Dixie - say Tennessee or Alabama - you'd see a totally different ethnic makeup.

 
CulzieDate: Friday, 2008-09-05, 8:24 PM | Message # 22
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There's no perfect analogy though. True enough. On the back of that 'Derry Day' paper there was a reference to the Boer war and the support for the British in that particular war. Fair enough, I can understand that. But then later on he speaks along the lines of all Protestants standing together. I thought ....right,is that everybody except the Dutch Reformed Church. smile

BTW I watched a programme which said that King Billy was the only Protestant ever on the throne of England. Couldn't figure that one out,still can't. But the only conclusion I could come to was that King Billy was of the Dutch Reformed Church. All the kings and queens of England/Britain were either C.O.E or R.C. He must not have reckoned that they were truly Reformed or Protestant.

Yeah the media has a lot to answer for in the way this world is today. What we see on TV from America most people here would form their opinions on that. Same with us when the 'troubles' started. The media presented a lot of biased reports. One side in these reports were described as 'demonstrators' and 'protestors'. The other side were described as 'mobs' and 'thugs'. No prizes for guessing which was which. hmm smile

Thats it, about cornering the media. Maybe someday we will see more and more from Alabama and Tennessee. The coverage here of the contenders for the President nominations was definely biased in favour of the Democrats. Obama/Clinton/Biden, were on quite a few ocassions the leading news story. The McCain/Palin coverage was well down in the news items. They have that power to sell what/who they favour.


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SlappataigDate: Friday, 2008-09-05, 8:25 PM | Message # 23
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new york is very bad with etnicity
 
PalmettoPatriotDate: Tuesday, 2008-09-09, 1:04 PM | Message # 24
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Yeah, I hate New York. I was there for 3 or 4 days one time on a sort of break in my flight from Georgia to Europe. I've never been to a more alien place than that city. So few Americans there. I did meet a few nice folks, but the general environment is terrible if you ask me. I remember being on a metro going to the airport and my Mom and I were the only 2 White people in the car. It was above the ground in parts and you could look out the window. Everything was in a partial state of destruction and what wasn't destroyed completely was totally covered in graffeti. It looked like a war zone. When we got to the airport I was extremely thankful to get off that metro and to be heading out of that city.

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