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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2013-01-16, 9:31 PM | Message # 1 |
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| It is something which has been talked about for decades. Maybe near a 100 years,but nothing has come of it. The cost is sometimes given as a reason. However,given the number of projects over the years into which money has been poured there could have been enough money to build a few bridges never mind one.I'm reminded of this by reading of the latest projects into which millions is to be poured. These are but three of them. When will our politicans make their voices heard in demanding a bridge or tunnel to Scotland.. For heaven's sake wake up and do something for your salaries.
1 ..Approval for cross-border bridgeIrish Independent Friday October 12 2012
The first new cross-border bridge since partition has been given the go-ahead in Northern Ireland.The £22million single carriageway structure will span the Newry River not far from Warrenpoint and link Co Down with Co Louth near Omeath and close to Carlingford Lough. The total length is approximately 660 metres and the project is seeking most of the money from the EU`s fund for development in border regions.
2..Minister alleviates funding fears over £850million Derry-Dublin road By Brenda McDaid
Thursday, 8 September 2011Transport Minister Danny Kennedy last night gave his backing to the £850 million dual carriageway project which will link Londonderry and Dublin
3..Natural Gas on way to West...Foster News Letter,Tuesday January 15 2013 Business Section
The supply of natural gas to the west of the province was hailed yesterday as a major boost for business in the region as the Executive confirmed it is to part-fund the expansion of the network After years of debate Energy Minister Arlene Foster welcomed the adminstration's support for extension of the network with an investment worth £32.5million.Friday October 12 2012The first new cross-border bridge since partition has been given the go-ahead in Northern Ireland.
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| RSAUB | Date: Thursday, 2013-01-17, 2:02 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Even the Victorians had a plan to build a tunnel to Scotland. It's all North and South co-operation, East to West is a big no-no with our kin in Scotland, economically it makes sense, with the amount of business and cargo shifted between Larne and Belfast to Scotland, but there isn't the political will to do anything that will strengthen our links with our fellow Britishers on the Mainland.
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| Culzie | Date: Thursday, 2013-01-17, 5:43 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Guess thats say it all. Especially the part about political will. The clowns we have at Stormont are not interested in even a rail tunnel. They are interested only in the gravy train. And as the good book says..''.where there is no vision the people perish''. Lot of sense in the good book.
But with all the amount of money poured into a lot of projects over many years it could have well paid for a bridge/tunnel by now. But its not even mentioned by our 'politicans'. Instead we have them pouring money into links with Dublin and Eire.
Bob Stoker 's the same all concerned about the New Lodge residents and their housing.>( Had to add that in:(
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| RSAUB | Date: Friday, 2013-01-18, 2:07 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Can't see why Bob Stoker is worried about the New Lodge when the very area he lives in the Village has almost been tottally destroyed in terms of numbers.
Very true about the lack of vision people perish and I can't say we have any politicians on our side with any vision that they are projecting to our people and in the corridors of power, the only vision they have is one of a shared future with the gun men and bombers of Sinn Fein IRA.
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| Culzie | Date: Friday, 2013-01-18, 5:36 PM | Message # 5 |
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| A whole page was given to the Village and the plight of some of its inhabitants. This is the part which mentions Bob Stoker.
The redevelopment in the Village area is to replace old housing stock.
But some are sad to see the homes they have lived in most of their lives vanish. And Bob Stoker,a life-long resident of the Village,and UUP councillor for Balmoral said the case would undermine the appetite for regeneration across Ulster.
He said: ''Exactly the same thing will happen in the next phase of regeneration,in the New Lodge area. I know people there have been watching this case very carefully.''
He said many residents in that area could be in negative equity.
Shows some concern for the New Lodge while Protestant areas are devastated. But then wasn't he the first Unionist to go a Gaelic football match. Seems it must have rubbed off on him.
Yeah a bridge and road for greater connections with Eire,and not even a whisper about stronger connections with Britain. I wonder if it is even discussed as something to be aimed for. If pass performances are anything to go by I doubt it. But then too its up to the people to push them on matters like this and to keep at them. We are inclined to let things go and thus let them off the hook,which suits them.
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| Culzie | Date: Tuesday, 2013-01-29, 11:44 PM | Message # 6 |
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| 26 mile long bridge in China 2010. Cost £5.5 billion. Rail link in England £32 billion. A fella a few years back suggested building some rigs like the oil rigs. These oil rigs seem to be able to stand up to the bashing they take from the North Sea.
His idea was to have them located in the North Channel and linked by bridges. I'm no expert but it seems feasible to me.Of course our politicans appear to be more interested in links with Eire than with the rest of the UK.
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| Culzie | Date: Monday, 2013-06-03, 4:26 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Cross-border bridge gets funding,but may yet be subject of inquiry
NL Wed May 29,2013
A multi-million pound funding package to build a bridge across Carlingford Lough linking Co Down to the Irish Republic was approved yesterday.
Finance Minister Sammy Wilson confirmed he would support funding for the £14 million Narrow Water Bridge project. The bridge is planned to be 660 metres (2,165 feet) long.
Crossrail opportunities waiting for firms in London
A mammoth project to drive a rail link though and under London presents similarly significant opportunities for local firms the management team has claimed. Mr Morgan was speaking on a visit with Enterprise Minister Arlene Foster to Dromore-based Environmental Fabrications which has already supplied 3000 tonnes of steel to London.
When complete the £15 billion rail link will stretch across the capital for 120km,21km of that underground,with nine new stations to be completed by 2018
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| RSAUB | Date: Wednesday, 2013-06-05, 6:37 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Further North to South links building, on the economic front what benefit is this scheme really going to have? Very little I imagine compared with the amount it's costing, yet a tunnel with the Mainland has vast economic benefits.
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2013-06-05, 10:40 PM | Message # 9 |
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| This from the NL. But as someone pointed out, why are unionists at Stormont (particularly) not pushing for a bridge or tunnel to Scotland. They berate sinn fein for getting money for this bridge. But thats what sinn fein are there to do. Its their job to build up links with the republic. I thought at least a part of the unionist brief would be to build up links with the British mainland and so promote a link across the North Channel. But no. They don't seem to have any interest. Men of straw.
The Narrow Water Bridge should be named in memory of the 18 members of the Parachute Regiment murdered there by the IRA 34 years ago, it has been suggested.
The bridge, recently given the go-ahead by Finance Minister Sammy Wilson, should be named in the killed soldiers’ honour, said UUP MLA Sam Gardiner, who added that he feels the bridge’s development is unnecessary.
“The Narrow Water Bridge is, to my mind, unnecessary and is the product of the kind of crazy economics and white elephant projects which Sinn Fein are given to,” said the Upper Bann representative. “There is a perfectly good road between Belfast and Dublin a few miles away and the local economy on both sides of the border there does not justify such a costly infrastructural project at this time of cut backs. Still, this is the Sinn Fein technique. They get a project approved through the EU and then suddenly it happens, even though it bears little relevance to what Northern Ireland’s economy needs.”
“Now that this white elephant bridge is going to be built, I believe it would be a fitting tribute to the memory of the mass murder of 18 members of the Parachute regiment by the Provisional IRA in 1979 if the bridge were named in honour of the Parachute Regiment. It could be the Parachute Regiment Bridge.”
Mr Gardiner said giving the bridge such a name might go some way to “redressing the offence” caused by the naming of a play park in Newry after IRA man Raymond McCreesh.
He said: “To name the new Narrow Water bridge after the Parachute Regiment would go some way to redressing the offence the McCreesh decision by Newry Council caused the unionist community across Northern Ireland.”
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| RSAUB | Date: Thursday, 2013-06-06, 7:35 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Exactly, a bridge with Scotland not only makes perfect economic sense but also helps bring us closer together with our kith and kin in Scotland. Our own politicians are so short sighted and just can't be bothered with the hassle.
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| Culzie | Date: Wednesday, 2013-06-12, 10:41 PM | Message # 11 |
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| FORGING TANGIBLE LINK WITH GB Monday May 27 2013
Part of a letter from Christopher Luke from Kent
Accordingly, coming – as Flybe’s decision has done – shortly before the impending G8 Summit in Northern Ireland, one would hope it would help focus British governmental minds on Northern Ireland’s geographical position on the periphery of the United Kingdom, the limited alternative means of travelling between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and their need to address the injustice of a possible reduction in Northern Ireland’s block grant allocation were the Northern Ireland Assembly ever to agree to devolving (and, hopefully, subsequently eliminating) air passenger duty on short-haul flights.
Amidst all the controversy about HS2 – the proposed high-speed rail link between London and the West Midlands – on one hand, and the impending referendum in Scotland to establish whether or not Scotland wishes to remain an integral part of the United Kingdom on the other, now seems to be an appropriate time for pro-union parties throughout Great Britain and Northern Ireland to give serious consideration to constructing a fixed rail/road-link between Scotland and Northern Ireland to safeguard and increase the number of construction jobs in Scotland and Northern Ireland in the short- to medium-term and, in the long-term, hopefully provide the travelling public with an alternative means of travelling from/to Northern Ireland without first having to incur the existing injustice of air passenger duty on internal UK flights and/or lengthy rail/road journeys to and from Cairnryan or Troon.
At the same time, the construction of a fixed rail/road link between Scotland and Northern Ireland may help boost the British Coalition Government’s standing in general and, more importantly, the case for Scotland remaining an integral part of the UK in particular, which would do no lasting damage to the UK economy as a whole.
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| RSAUB | Date: Monday, 2013-06-17, 7:12 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Well said Mr Luke, not to mention the vast number of construction jobs on the Mainland that Ulster tradesmen are currently contracted for. Down at the docks you see an abundance of vans heading over to the Mainland every day between them and haulage firms is staggering the demand is there, now let's have some action.
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| Culzie | Date: Saturday, 2013-06-22, 9:07 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Yes, some action should be taken especially from our so-called politicians. Make it a crusade and keep at it. They have right on their side, if all this talk of building bridges between people is sincere. What better than a physical bridge across to the Mainland. As mentioned, is the island of Ireland not the only part of Europe which is isolated in this way now that mainland Britain has its tunnel?
Its something ALL the politicians both here and on the mainland should be seriously promoting. The OS had an article on the same theme about a couple of months ago.
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| RSAUB | Date: Tuesday, 2013-06-25, 8:10 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Even if our politicians pushed for an economic viability study on this issue would be a start.
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| Culzie | Date: Tuesday, 2013-06-25, 9:32 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Yes It would make good sense. OK we are in a 'credit crunch' so they tell us but the groundwork could be started now and be an ongoing thing. If started it should never be allowed to lapse. As I said another £7 million is being spent to facilitate the expected big cruise liners. A good thing I suppose. But how many cruise liners to we get in a year? All the millions spent over the years could built a few bridges to the Mainland.
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