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| RSAUB | Date: Monday, 2013-10-14, 6:53 AM | Message # 46 |
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| Very true, yet another little piece of history that has been manipulated and written by the republican gangsters but we must always remember the truth and allow our people the opportunity to read the truth.
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| Culzie | Date: Monday, 2013-10-14, 5:15 PM | Message # 47 |
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| Yes, that sometimes seems more of a difficult task with our own people than with outsiders. Some of oor ain fowk are even talking the same way as the republican gangsters, about how badly the Catholics were treated. They come across as having a guilt complex and believing all the propaganda which the republicans are so adept at. You'd think they would at least try and look it up and see the other side.
It is that type of Protestant who bears responsibility for stirring up the 'civil rights' trouble in the 1960s. A Protestant siding with the agitators gave creditability to the claims of the 'civil-righters',and by so doing help bring about all the years of bloodshed.
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| RSAUB | Date: Monday, 2013-10-14, 6:53 PM | Message # 48 |
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| Very true, those Protestants have a lot to answer for, they helped cause the deaths of thousands of our people and countless tens of thousands injured by the republican murder machine. These Protestants who jumped on the so called civil rights (ira front) bandwagon are scum and no youthful ideals etc is any excuse for the beast they helped create and the destruction that it brought to our land.
Unfortunately very few of our own have any true belief in Ulster, so they are easy meat for the state media and the IRA lies and fantastic propaganda but we have to provide an alternative and although things are against us and we're up against some a the best talkers and liars in the World, we do have the truth on our side.
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| Culzie | Date: Monday, 2013-10-14, 9:32 PM | Message # 49 |
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| Very true words.There is a mighty army arrayed against us both within an without, But as you say we have truth on our side,and that's what we must keep proclaiming no matter the odds against us
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| Culzie | Date: Sunday, 2013-10-27, 10:26 PM | Message # 50 |
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| OS October 2013
Really interesting to see how the housing market has been operating in Short Strand. As widely reported recently, a judge criticised a former Sinn Fein councillor for allocating properties to his two nieces ahead of a homeless man - who then took St Matthews Housing Association to court and won his case.
it was also found that Cllr Joe O'Donnell failed to abide by a code of conduct. Another Housing Board member was also given a home at the former Mountpottinger police station site.
I seem to recall how the issue of allocation of housing was a major gripe for the Civil Rights Association back in the 1960s. Interesting that some of those who would criticise how things used to be done have been at it themselves.
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| Culzie | Date: Tuesday, 2014-01-28, 11:06 PM | Message # 51 |
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| Browsing though the BT Archives I came across this. I would add that Collins in collusion with the northern ira hit Belfast with a firebomb campaign which devastated many buildings including Protestant schools.
Irish nationalists should be slow to use Nazi analogy Eric Waugh – 21 October 2005
I have been reflecting on all this in the light of our recent bout of mutual, communal abuse. Unionists have been likened to Nazis. It reveals how a notion of victimhood, if inculcated and dwelt upon, can corrode the consciousness of a people.
The Republic has cast itself as the victim of the British for all of its 80-odd years: it still does. But it has achieved this at the cost of wiping from its national consciousness as much as it could of one half of its heritage: the visibly British part. The irony that, in 1966, republicans imported French plastiqueurs, of all people, to blow up the Nelson Pillar on O'Connell Street in Dublin will not be lost on many.
Nowadays southern Protestants bristle at the slightest Northern criticism of the South and laud their unalloyed civil liberties. But the few disciples of the Anglo-Irish tradition left, survive by keeping quiet: no poppies in November please and no Union Jacks with the others outside hotels.
History is taught through a haze of green. So some think the unionists were Nazis. Good heavens, unionists could be a disgrace: the residential vote in council elections should have been abolished when the rest of the UK did it in 1945. Basil Brooke should have employed Catholics.
Even so, the cry of one-man-one-vote in 1966 was a fraud: no one was ever denied a Stormont or a Westminster vote, though gerry-mandering denied nationalists council seats; but even this was not all one way.
Fundamentally, in attacking the unionist record, account must be taken of its context: for the new statelet was faced in 1920 with a Dublin regime openly resolved to render it unworkable.
At the time of his assassination in 1922, Collins was busy perfecting plans for a trade war. The 21 nationalist councils refused to carry out their functions.
The Catholic bishops refused formal recognition to Craig's Government, refused to co-operate in the single schools system he wanted and refused to sit on a committee on future education policy.
When Craig announced that the new police force would have one third of its places reserved for Catholics, there was intimidation and few joined. The RUC was then condemned as a sectarian force!
Of course if we had had the single schools system, one of the fertilisers of the seed-bed in which the Nazi charges grew would have been removed. Youngsters would not have had a choice between green-haze history (Catholic schools) and Ireland-as-seen- by-the-Brits (state system).
As it is, Irish nationalists should be slow to use the Nazi analogy. Were not their wilder spirits allies of Hitler's unspeakable hordes in the Second World War, slipping details to Hempel's Nazi legation in Dublin about the defencelessness of Belfast against air attack and the extent of its strategic targets, not to mention those who signalled Luftwaffe reconnaissance planes from Divis as they flew low over Cave Hill, choosing their targets for the slaughter to come?
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/importe....32.html
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